Why I'm Against Anti-Doping Part 1

2.04.2021
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Link to Part 2: fistream.info/work/videot/gdp9strXd5TOyIk
Disclaimer:
This is an educational video which does not glorify or advocate drug use.
This is just a criticism of anti-doping.
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References:
East German Doping Document:
academic.oup.com/clinchem/article/43/7/1262/5640958
Passing T/E ratio test with testosterone enanthate:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17530941/
Differences in testosterone secretion:
academic.oup.com/jcem/article/91/2/687/2843517
Designer steroids:
www.ergogenics.org/anabolenboek/index18en.html
German doping documentary:
fistream.info/work/videot/fK2Rs7jWhGK4q2Q
McLaren Report:
www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/mclaren_report_part_ii_2.pdf
A summary of WADA investigations (urine substitution, doppelgängers) :
www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/iwf_global_report.pdf
News reports:
www.weightliftinghouse.com/category/news/
www.allthingsgym.com/
www.insidethegames.biz/
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Kommentteja
  • Hey guys, I made a follow-up video because it was definitely needed. You can really talk about this for hours. If you have any doubts about my arguments in this video then I highly recommend checking out part 2 Link to Part 2: fistream.info/work/videot/gdp9strXd5TOyIk

    Clarence0Clarence0Uukausi sitten
    • Do a video on why you became vegan.

      Jake SimmondsJake SimmondsUukausi sitten
    • simple reality -- as long as winning is better than losing people will find ways to improve their odds

      David ChiuDavid ChiuUukausi sitten
    • heres a possibility -- just require a responsible party like a doctor or nation-state certify the athlete isnt getting into a dangerous state of overuse and be responsible for their life-long care if his/her liver suddenly fails

      David ChiuDavid ChiuUukausi sitten
    • Suspicious.

      gb_2000gb_2000Uukausi sitten
  • great eye-opening video, i needed to watch something like this, i suspected that people competing at the highest levels must be doped in some way, otherwhise we must see videos of enhanced people beating them all over the internet!

    WoTjollyWoTjollyPäivä sitten
  • 19:10 Lets look at white-collar crime. It causes no direct harm (like an assault) and what makes the act criminal is based on what we as people perceive as right or wrong. Those cultural ideas are then translated into law. So take insider trading, by your logic we shouldn't go after insider traders because they can afford really good legal teams who can get them off if enough money is spent. We obviously don't do that because not trying to catch anyone guarantees we catch no insider traders. If we catch less at the time and go back and catch them later then any harm they did has already been caused but it ruins their reputation and will deter (som not all) others. For me doping tests are the same, we decided that to keep the playing field as level as possible we should test. Marion Jones had all of the resources but she had medals taken off of her and her name is mud.

    Doug ClarkDoug Clark2 päivää sitten
  • 8:00 a fairer playing field for everyone to cheat. What about those of us who don't want to, it just guarantees people like me can never compete. At least in a less than perfect drug testing world we can go back and ping people retrospectively. I might be pissed off I came 4th and then moved to 3rd way after the photos have finished being taken and I am retired but its something at least. In a world of sporting ego's and BS about 'legacies,' those cheats who get caught later and the stadium named after them gets its name changed its going to hurt them.

    Doug ClarkDoug Clark2 päivää sitten
  • I really don't think all of this applies equally among all Olympic sports. I think your points stand in Olympic weightlifting, but I think swimming has fewer people who dope. (I might be totally wrong.)

    Sam HawkeSam Hawke3 päivää sitten
    • On the contrary.....

      Inez MInez M3 päivää sitten
    • If there is less doping or no doping in X sport, then why have anti-doping and spend billions of dollars on it? If doping has no benefit why have anti-doping?

      Clarence0Clarence03 päivää sitten
  • You really turned me around on this. I was in the "ignorant about anti-doping" camp, and felt that anti-doping was a means to level the playing field. It doesn't take long to realize that it's a thin and ineffective means of appeasing some individuals without actually solving any problems.

    Christian  RomanChristian Roman4 päivää sitten
  • Aren’t CrossFitters completely natural? Asking for a friend.

    jim kennedyjim kennedy5 päivää sitten
  • mind = blown not only u inspired me to get stronger with ur other vids, you helped me understand reality better and its implications, I will take this into account to have a healthier life, thank you so much for taking apart the false curtain with such explanation skills

    empty_01empty_015 päivää sitten
  • 11:58 epimers - they have just one carbon of a mirror configuration. They are not complete mirror images of each other.

    MegaVRAKMegaVRAK6 päivää sitten
  • You've really opened my eyes to the reality of PED use. Well researched and well done.

    mapleknot3mapleknot37 päivää sitten
  • peanut butter jelly time

    Lucky PoopLucky Poop8 päivää sitten
  • "Some of which [supplements] are more dangerous than actual anabolics by the way" What supplements are you referring to?

    RoanRoan9 päivää sitten
  • I was part of Team GB for Taekwondo and the there was zero room to dope. I wasn't even allowed to use Berocca because it wasn't certified by Informed Sport.

    Danny Dowling FitnessDanny Dowling Fitness9 päivää sitten
  • Who are the people that watch these events or care? I don’t get it

    Corn PopCorn Pop11 päivää sitten
  • Trenbelone sandwiches.

    Roko KrstičevićRoko Krstičević12 päivää sitten
  • Maybe anti doping is just idea which tells to fight the war without weaponry

    akshay bhoirakshay bhoir12 päivää sitten
  • Boys there’s only one category of sports where doping has no effect. Esports. Unless it’s like ADHD medicine or something.

    Organized EntropyOrganized Entropy13 päivää sitten
    • There's anti-doping in esports

      Clarence0Clarence011 päivää sitten
  • Just have 2 divisions - like powerlifting does. 1 with open PED usage, 1 natural. 2 sets of performance records - 1 for each division.

    Eric ChionhEric Chionh14 päivää sitten
  • PEDs is humanity's first step into the next era

    FourtiiFourtii14 päivää sitten
  • Very eye opening

    OzzieeOzziee15 päivää sitten
  • Fucking great video !

    Mergim NezirajMergim Neziraj15 päivää sitten
  • Can you make a video talking about the ufc please

    RampageRampage16 päivää sitten
  • Without anti doping every single sport becomes a competition of who can drug heir monkey up better. It becomes a purely pay to win. If anti-doping sucks, we should invest more in anti-doping.

    KočivjetarKočivjetar17 päivää sitten
  • Great video! You could even argue that drug testing makes it more dangerous for athletes that are using non tested compounds to avoid getting caught. Very educational!

    MaurgameMaurgame18 päivää sitten
  • Eyes opening video

    respected mastermindrespected mastermind18 päivää sitten
  • The "create a level playing field" thing is such obvious nonsense. If anything it's exactly the opposite. It's adding yet another differentiating factor i.e. people who find a way to not get caught get a huge advantage. In that sense, it's no different than access to good equipment or coaches. The only way to create a level playing field is to make sure everyone has equal access to the resource. In the case of drugs, that means either testing has to be perfect, or you have to let everyone take them. edit: lol, i unpaused the video, and Clarence said the same thing.

    Denis LilaDenis Lila18 päivää sitten
  • I get your point, but just because everyone is allowed to take any drug, that Doesnt change the fact some people have more money/better connection etc. The playingfield would still not be fair cuz those people could get better drugs then the rest, and the rest might still get dirty shit cause it would B cheaper

    Bart SimpsonnBart Simpsonn20 päivää sitten
  • Commenting for the algorithm. I remember reading a book on the Balco debacle when I was young. Don't even know how it ended up among the books but, there it was. Still, I didn't think it was as even as widespread as you've talked about. Wondering how much of it is involved in European football/soccer.

    David RomeroDavid Romero21 päivä sitten
  • yes, I'm 55yrs old, almost 50yrs in all kind of sport and I can say I have seen almost everything. I have lost in Balcan Championship Weightlifting to a guy from East Block Country in 1997y. He was obviously ''on'', he was shaking like a twig and eyes bloody red like a vampire. He beats me so easy that I'm sure he will lift 20kg more if he had to. Then I have heard about ''milk drops'', Test suspension, hiding and clearing agents, I was so disappointed I almost quit the sport entirely. So, F**K THE DOPING CONTROL, I 100% AGREE!!!

    lasombor1lasombor123 päivää sitten
  • The only issue I see is that you mention how anti-doping is easy to skirt when you have money and connections, but would these people not still have better access to better PEDs which would still keep the poor competitor at a disadvantage?

    Fred AstaireFred Astaire23 päivää sitten
    • @ThomasShatter time to do some research and hook myself up

      Fred AstaireFred Astaire6 päivää sitten
    • Nope. You can get classic PEDs without a problem. They are quite cheap.

      ThomasShatterThomasShatter8 päivää sitten
  • I want to see the peak of human capability, i dont care about the cost.

    Big BoiBig Boi24 päivää sitten
  • Like weightlifting is the only sport that uses peds at Olimpics lol. It's mind blowing that all this politics, money and these old farts try to control something and make laws. There should be no drug testing, iwf should focus on judging instead of making stupid rules who can complete and why. Every athlete should be free to use whatever they want and get help from their country for what they use. Period. Looking at these old farts trying to write laws and decide between what's right or wrong is ridiculous. You don't want to take it, don't take it. If someone wants to compete,get them compete

    TommyTommy24 päivää sitten
  • The amount of idiots who think one person is on shit and the other one is not is ridiculous. They should let everyone freely use whatever they want. It's normal

    TommyTommy24 päivää sitten
  • Great video!

    Rick LilShoreRick LilShore25 päivää sitten
  • 30:54 onwards is metal. That's the PSA that we need.

    Kenneth GKenneth G25 päivää sitten
  • Denmark just pulls randos out of the gym for steroid tests? That's nuts.

    TheDayDrinkerTheDayDrinker25 päivää sitten
  • nobody: clarence: YOUR-ENINE

    Jayson K StoneJayson K Stone26 päivää sitten
  • I like your look on this subject and I do agree. But I cannot stand that you suggest with the Editing that Shi Zhiyong is not Natty.

    Wouter AriszWouter Arisz27 päivää sitten
  • Hey Clarence, I don't know if you'll read/see my question at all (maybe I should get Patreon and I would have a better chance of Irish-senpai noticing me again) but I have a big question for you. I've been following you since 2011 and know of all your trials and tribulations with the Irish WL federation and sports council, and getting funding when you were actually competing. To me in my eyes I see your decision to take drugs at least in part due to frustration with that whole system and the lack of support it gave you personally as an athlete. From the beginning there seemed to be bad blood. My question to you is, do you think you would have went this route with anabolics if you lived/were born in a country with a better support system and structure, like Germany, South Korea, Spain, etc? I'm not asking "would you have reached the same numbers" as probably not, just would you have stayed "natty" if you had coaching that didn't suck for lifters not using copious anabolics and a proper support system of funding, but also access to doctors, physios, etc, in a national team setting? I hope you find this as interesting of a hypothetical question as I do. Thanks!

    GilBatesLovesyouGilBatesLovesyou28 päivää sitten
  • I’m a trans weightlifter and I can’t even begin to describe how the “anti-doping” and “fair sport” rhetoric is so harmful to us, trans women especially. When trans women win medals, they’re immediately under scrutiny bc of their gender, because “it’s not fair” as if all the other cis women they’re competing against aren’t on drugs.

    Ray RobertsRay Roberts28 päivää sitten
  • I'm pro doping let these glory junkies juice there brains out it would make it more entertaining if how good your ped coach was also a major factor in winning gold

    Jacob FoersterJacob FoersterUukausi sitten
  • Play chess

    kapil nagarkapil nagarUukausi sitten
  • So is this past the reason that you don’t compete? I think you hinted at it in an interview once?

    SunGod97SunGod97Uukausi sitten
  • Thanks for ruuining my dreams!

    Gabriel LloydGabriel LloydUukausi sitten
  • WADA could just employ me and take me look at their delts lol. So revealing.

    Kerstin JonzzonKerstin JonzzonUukausi sitten
  • This is comparable to using cheats in a video game. You should be charged & jailed the same way as money laundering for using drugs to gain an advantage.

    CommandoBlackCommandoBlackUukausi sitten
  • Congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs. Again. Solid points and well researched. Hot take and probably will get down voted to hell, but if trans athletes can perform in their selected gender, doping regulations should be abandoned.

    Adam TSchmidtAdam TSchmidtUukausi sitten
  • I mean look at bodybuilding and power lifting in them sports they don't test ppl at all. For mr olympia they don't test them and you don't see any of the problems like what's going on the olympics or another sport out there.

    GcoolsnowGcoolsnowUukausi sitten
  • utterly based

    Cute BunnyCute BunnyUukausi sitten
  • I agree but the fact that at a certain level it seems like it's just about peds vs peds is disappointing.

    Joseph T. NiasJoseph T. NiasUukausi sitten
  • im also agains't anti doping cause it seems fun to see what the people who are enhanced are able to do

    SnivyKnightSnivyKnightUukausi sitten
  • Are you and league of lifting related

    TrueHorrorTrueHorrorUukausi sitten
  • In a perfect world no one would cheat in drug tested leagues and it would be fair. In reality, someone will always find a way to use drugs in drug-tested sports.

    bungus chanbungus chanUukausi sitten
  • Yep, but USA is not clean.

    Raw8LifterRaw8LifterUukausi sitten
  • Nailed it

    Patrick DeiningerPatrick DeiningerUukausi sitten
  • banish death... instill life...

    Bradley HaufBradley HaufUukausi sitten
  • One of the best videos I've seen in a long time. Truly brilliant. You should do a feature length documentary on this subject, joining these videos into it.

    AnthonyAnthonyUukausi sitten
  • People who don't know much about professional athletics live with the naïve ideal that in a perfect world, drugs are cheating and of course you can't cheat to win as a professional athlete because that just isn't allowed. Whether you agree that it should be allowed or not doesn't really matter, because it simply is and that isn't going to change anytime soon, no matter what laws or regulations are put in place. Better to simply draw attention to the reality of it so people can educate themselves on what it really is and what it means for pro athletes and maybe also how it can be done more safely. No amount of regulation or precautions have managed to stop it yet and doubtful any ever will because the reality is that most organizers and sponsors secretly don't want it stopped because athletes that can perform beyond natural ability draw more money and attention to the sport and the athletes themselves have to continue to push to keep up with that demand. Excellent work Clarence.

    upinarms79upinarms79Uukausi sitten
  • watching this made me not want to work out lol

    Simple cbSimple cbUukausi sitten
  • Cycling has had drugs for 40+ years... Dog and horse racing even longer... and body building has much to be blamed for introducing many drugs to other sports... Corrupt, immoral countries, who only esteem athletes who win gold, cheat for prestige...I know of many clean athletes who never succeeded in their chosen sports because the playing field wasn't level. Unfortunately, there will always be cheats

    David SpriggsDavid SpriggsUukausi sitten
  • Did you imply that Usian Bolt was also on enhanced? Or that he was sick of competing against drug users?

    Miguel OharaMiguel OharaUukausi sitten
    • Usain Bolt is enhanced

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
  • Clarence, please do some cardio and ease down on dbol. You seem out of breath just talking.

    Analog FishAnalog FishUukausi sitten
  • Do a video on why you became vegan.

    Jake SimmondsJake SimmondsUukausi sitten
  • I disagree. Look at the UFC. The USADA is cleaning up the sport pretty good.

    WB LWB LUukausi sitten
    • @benadryl cabbagepatch well you can have your opinion but if you read USADA protocol, even if you have access to short metabolite PED, its difficult to hide it. plus, IV is considered PED now that its banned and steroid is just one example of PED. USADA cathces all kinds of PEDS, not just steroids. your blatant statement of 'everyone is on steroid' show that you take a simplistic approach and over generalize. we know ani-doping isn't 100% but you cannot deny getting randomly tested 20 times a year vs no anti-doping the consequences are obvious. also everything you say is just word of mouth there is no evidence to support of it. its the same criticism i give to clarence.

      WB LWB LUukausi sitten
    • @WB L costa got busted for using IV, not for steroids and rodolfo never got busted. Also passing drug tests does not mean a fighter is clean. Ngannou is not a bodybuilder, he's an MMA fighter that engages in cardio-intensive energy-consuming training on a regular basis AND is able to not only build but maintain his level of musculature on top of said training. Everybody's on steroids

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
    • @benadryl cabbagepatch they all god busted. including costa. in no way nganu juicing when he gets tested 18 times a year. i rest my case.

      WB LWB LUukausi sitten
    • No it isn't. Fighters are still juicing. All the Brazilians are on steroids, look at paulo costa and rodolfo viera, and all the female Brazilian fighters sound like dudes. USADA is a joke.

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
  • Welkome to the world my friend! This happens in every institution on earth...

    Elise PringelsElise PringelsUukausi sitten
  • So does this mean Russian mma fighters are using drugs that are undetectable to the UFC and that’s why they are dominating? Because although they seem healthy, they are always getting sick! Unlock fighters from every other country.

    iForgot160iForgot160Uukausi sitten
  • I fully agree that most of if not all top level athletes are on drugs. But can someone help me understand why most aren’t caught? I know there’s ways to cheat and I also know that the best of the best (Ronaldo, bolt, Lebron) are given special treatment because of who they are and the money they bring in. But what I don’t understand is people like Aphiwe Dyantyi, he is a professional rugby player that played internationally for South Africa. He was one of if not the best winger at the time when he got caught for doping and was given a 4 year suspension. Why? Why do only some top athletes get caught instead of being allowed to get away with it? Is it just to make it look like they’re testing properly or is it just some other sort of corruption?

    efield1008efield1008Uukausi sitten
  • I lost it at 9:36 😭☠

    Muheed 7Muheed 7Uukausi sitten
  • 20:45 looks like the girl turns into a man hahahaha??

    Martin EllisMartin EllisUukausi sitten
  • Brilliantly done.

    Randy LaheyRandy LaheyUukausi sitten
  • It's the same in online gaming, none of the kids seem aware of the cheating.

    Dead By DaylightDead By DaylightUukausi sitten
  • Number 🌳 He finished 💩 place

    Haden WilkinsonHaden WilkinsonUukausi sitten
  • Great video. Really informed me. Respect the honesty.

    Michael McFaddenMichael McFaddenUukausi sitten
  • 18:05 ah so that is why Joe Rogan keeps telling people to take DMT.

    FaustFaustUukausi sitten
  • That study about microdosing testosterone has a very low N. Only 9 subjects? I'm not disputing the results, but to get a solid statistically valid prediction you would want to bump that N to north of 1000.

    FaustFaustUukausi sitten
  • “The duchess “ seems like some shitty meme of r/nattyorjuice. Just incredible man...

    Sergio PlacanicaSergio PlacanicaUukausi sitten
  • Lmao the video of the Irish Shepard when talking about Ireland hahah

    Jay MoravitzJay MoravitzUukausi sitten
  • Bill Burr: This fucking guy gets it

    Martin CavazosMartin CavazosUukausi sitten
  • imagine the government spending billions on researching safer steroids where we would be right now.

    Isaac sharpIsaac sharpUukausi sitten
  • My Uncle competed in the Olympics in the 90’s and he confirms that even him was using drugs to compete and passing all the drug tests. He always laugh when someone talks about being Natural!

    Mark MarcoMark MarcoUukausi sitten
  • You're absolutely right. But I think the main problem now is that sports are not about competition anymore. There is so much money and economic interests revolving around it, that its not about winning, losing or just fairly competing. Its mostly about preserving (possibly increasing) the value of the brand (a club or a single athlete), the visibility. In order to do this, u need to be in the elite, even if u dont win titles.

    Alessandro TestaAlessandro TestaUukausi sitten
  • 👍 ( Denmark )

    Hansen HansenHansen HansenUukausi sitten
  • I am not sure I can or can not agree either way. I am an advocate for its your body as long as you are not harming another do as you will. I am also a proponent for just because someone else does something wrong doesn't mean you should.... their lack of integrity does not affect your integrity ! Watched this for my son!

    MemeGam LovieMemeGam LovieUukausi sitten
  • its because most people are dumb and know things only when they're being told plainly

    WASDWASDUukausi sitten
  • 110% agree

    IT & FitnessIT & FitnessUukausi sitten
  • You just could snitch on someone in Belgium in a gym and they would get tested here... Crazy

    Maxime EveraertsMaxime EveraertsUukausi sitten
    • That's insane

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
  • 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    KBWKBWUukausi sitten
  • very persuasive

    DoctorHomunculousDoctorHomunculousUukausi sitten
  • It's all well and good in lifting weights, running and throwing things. You have no idea the damage this would cause in boxing or MMA. This is a life changing sport, some level of protection is better than none.

    Liam WolstenholmeLiam WolstenholmeUukausi sitten
    • The incentive to use PEDs is even greater in combat sports

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
  • are you and saab too much of bitches to have a real conversation or not come on lets get to the bottom of this guys yall both intelligent we gotta get somewhere with this

    Action ThraxinAction ThraxinUukausi sitten
  • Bro this legit blew my mind a real eye opener I honestly believed all olympic athletes were natural

    Jayde OchineroJayde OchineroUukausi sitten
  • capitalism lowkey at it again

    PPUukausi sitten
  • Plus, some people that have been sick can produce more a or less testosterone too, like a guy with one in the ballsack after a cancer... That's why those test are biased from the beginning

    Chemist716Chemist716Uukausi sitten
  • It sounds good in theory, but in practice a level playing field is unachivable, countries with more resources always have the advantage no matter what. Also, if dopping was legal, athletes would try to gain an advantage by taking higher and higher doses, and they would be risking their health anyways.

    matriaxpunkmatriaxpunkUukausi sitten
  • Agree

    Bunta FujiwaraBunta FujiwaraUukausi sitten
  • God, this is so good. My thoughts exactly, and it's great to hear this from an actually experienced athlete. So tired of hypocrisy. And I'm a fan of all the "dirty" lifters regardless - it just saddens me that they can't just say "yeah, I take drugs; except all my main opponents do too, so I'm still the best in the world" (Ilya, for instance). Lasha, Ilya and other greats would win on ANY playing field, PED-enhanced or perfectly clean.

    Vadim PakhutkinVadim PakhutkinUukausi sitten
  • Small balls no medals

    Jose BonillaJose BonillaUukausi sitten
  • Sports at the highest level are about pushing the limits of what's POSSIBLE for human beings to accomplish, not what is clean. I don't think that takes away from how impressive the achievements of Olympic athletes are.

    Bennett ConradBennett ConradUukausi sitten
    • @benadryl cabbagepatch yes that's why I think Clarence is right.

      Bennett ConradBennett ConradUukausi sitten
    • It's definitely impressive but we can't have people believing that those athletes are natural

      benadryl cabbagepatchbenadryl cabbagepatchUukausi sitten
  • 4th time watching this video. Great video Clarence.

    Divine PlaceboDivine PlaceboUukausi sitten
  • Also China runs all these international agencies and they will want to keep the boot on everyone else’s neck while they develop their next generation of Frankenstein’s monsters. Hopefully we will have a full squad of dudes in wigs able to compete in the “women’s” bracket at least.

    r gr gUukausi sitten
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