Planking Tally Ho! (Wooden Boatbuilding / EP86)
Rebuilding a historic sailing yacht - Planking Tally Ho! (EP86)
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EPISODE 86.
In this episode, we start to get the “hang” of the planking! The first quick job is to put the Stopwaters into the centreline seams - softwood dowels which will swell up and prevent water ingress. Then the first Angelique Garboard is hung, and is quickly followed by more Topside Planks and Broads.
Meanwhile, I jury-rig a circular saw to cut rolling bevels, which helps speed up cutting the planks out. The other guys get into the swing of riveting, with the help of a homemade “Dolly” (otherwise known as a “Bucking Iron”).
We are still speeding up, but by the end of the first 2 weeks of planking we have 12 planks on the boat, which I’m pretty happy with!
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Black Terrier Blues - Mini Vandals
This Or That - TrackTribe
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86. Planking Tally Ho! (EP86)
Thanks for all the great feedback! It seems that some people thought my rant about butts vs scarphs was some kind of dig at A2A, which it absolutely wasn't! I tried to make it clear that I think butt joints are the best choice in this particular situation - IF the planking stock is long enough. A2A's planking stock seemed to be on the shorter side, which is (I assume) why they chose to scarph their planks - a completely reasonable decision considering the circumstances. As always there are many ways to skin a cat, and each situation demands a different approach.
It's funny how people always seem to "hear" or "read" something in an ordinary, innocent statement.
D!d!
@RiggenbachDE Similarly, I kept bending every nail that I was trying to hammer into treated wood using what I think is an electric lineman's hammer. No matter how softly I tried to hit the nails they kept bending. Then I discovered that if I used a hammer a third of the weight I could drive the nails with no problems.
Lil shade thrown, lil shade. Quite obvious. Youll be getting flack for ghetto this time 'round. And so it goes...
@Gottenhimfella Dont be gettin all sensible n shit.
I've been watching from the start of this adventure. Brilliant and inspiring to see the attention to details. Can I suggest you use a digital angle gauge to sort out the plank joint angles? I've used it a few times for bicycle fittings. Quick, easy and accurate. Measure length wise as small an increment you want and with a bit of data collection, Robert is my father's brother. Cheers and thanks for the inspiration!
Como vc faz esse repuxo pra pregos?? Abraços!
Anyone know with certainty what size Clifton plane Leo is sporting in this vid??
35:52 - Loving this section with Pete. I dunno if it's the lighting or the framing or what but it looks like an infomercial. XD
This episode is not part of the playlist. Started getting into episode 87 until I realized that a bunch of planks went up with no video footage.
This video seems to be missing from the 'Rebuilding Tally Ho - From the Beginning' playlist?
When you cut some timber with a saw mill, as you cut that stress and tension will appear like magic and be a real pain
I stumbled on to this gem and decided to watch the whole episode. Very impressive. I can't wait to see the finished product especially since my left ankle is in a 50# plaster cast making it very difficult for me to do much of anything else. I'll be waiting for your next upload.
A rabbet (American English) or rebate (British English) is a recess or groove cut into the edge of a piece of machinable material
A thought about your butt jointed planks. Could you use triangular scarfed finder joints(?) where short fingers interlock at the plank ends. Set them in pitch to seal. Is this appropriate or too much hassle?
It's too late now, but could you pressure inject polyurethane mastic into the old pitch sealed joints? I'ts stuff that sets under damp conditions so should seal the cracks. I'm thinking about something like the "furmanite" process used in engineering to seal leaks. Lower pressure on the boat - we don't want joints forced apart. Stop dowels can be added later.
Superb boat, beautiful ribs! Great demo, and may I complement your excellent skills.
Great building. what wood is the planking?
That dog gotta be full of sawdust lol
ed sheeran as boat builder
would you please put the date when you post. .Its seems U tube or whatever keeps changing its algorithm and send me back to past episodes . .I have hit the bell more times than closing at the local pub. Subscribed ,liked as well . .Maybe they don't like us in Western Canada. .However the date would help instead of back to befirvthe bronze castings. thanks Leo. happy new year. Ps I understand you have the episode. but date would really help if possible
Just use this playlist - all videos in order! fistream.info/main/PLB00JHoTw1TeX82Qw8hoFLRJI89Us_jMw.html
Years ago I worked at a boat shop in the winters building custom sport fishing boats. There was a winter dart league and three of us formed a dart team and named our team The Starboard Garboard. (I had read somewhere that traditionally the starboard garboard was the first plank put on a boat, and as we were boat builders and intended to to take first place in the league, the name seemed to fit. We won the league and the play-off tournament.) We were different from the other strakes.
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And there we have it, finally, Rosie the Riveter.
The precision of fine furniture carpentry brought to wooden boat building!
Getto engineering,, ??? I see you have not visited cuba,
When the Tally Ho finally sails the whole world will be roaring! You will be able to hear it where ever you are.
Not a port in the world where she won't be welcome.
Leo, stupid question,- I would have thought you would have to have steamed the planks to make the bend on the hull? The tension is spread and the amount of clamps and rivets keeps it there but doesn't the tension remain without the steam process?
The tension in unsteamed planks will gradually relax over several weeks.
God bless...
Put two planks on the boat clamped correctly with a space a little smaller than the router bit. Run the router the full length now you have correct bevel and perfect fit
always if youy watch the video just to support the project. From Philippines
Fantastic video. happy belated Thanks givving, (sorry my main pc took a poop )
Why are they not using a rivet gun?????
Why don't you plank the boat form the bottom to the top as opposed to starting the planking in the middle of the boat?
Very interesting video & all of you guys seem like you have happy personalities. Really enjoyed this 👍
Very talented man keep up the great work.
Stupid talking
Hi Leo I have really enjoyed your videos. I think I have watched all of them. Just wondered what camera and mic are you using to make them? Thanks
I would have guessed the sòft wood water stops would more likely force the joints apart and also work like a sponge in the sense that water would be transferred 'through' the sòft wood with the flexing of the boat and continue into the bilge. That said this boat is a work of art an absolutely gorgeous physical evocation of purest love.
Very very interesting video! You've made watching boat rebuilding really fun to sit and watch, and truly enjoy what would normally be a droll experience generally speaking!!! Thanks very much!!!!
😯👍👍👍👌❤❤❤
Hiya Leo
What is red lead? Is it somekind of primer?
Well it is a primer, used to prevent mold & rot.
Your choice to no plug advertising into your videos is so refreshing. Sterling quality production.
Thank you Leo. For me it's a meditation, watching you form each plank so accurately, and then fitting them to make such a beautiful shape.
There is one thing about your videos I really do not like; when they end!
Riveting episode! Well done.
Pete's worth his weight in diamonds... and that's saying a lot bc everyone that's chipped in here has been very good.
Question about how to keep the hull planks water tight. I didn't see any caulking, so how do you keep the hull water tight?
Where do you get your wood from?
glue a stripe of joist rubber tape thats for dampening between flor boards and joists to your guiding plank so you can use third of all this clamps :) btw impressive collection of them
I can’t possibly go through 2,096 blabbering ignorant comments looking for a hundred or so that are on subject and add substantial feedback to this young mans project.
Your dolly or buck is called a bucking bar in the aviation world. Your Craftsmanship is to be highly commended.
What a job!👍
The planking stock is some amazing wood, that's sure. Nice.
Leo: FIstream has chosen to censor all references to the American election. I simply cannot support them any longer. I want you to know how much I have enjoyed getting to know you and your work a bit. You are an extraordinary and talented person. Your craftsmanship and knowledge are superb, especially in light of your age. I am truly sorry that I must debarked here and trust that you will succeed brilliantly on the remainder of this voyage and on many, many more. Best always. Larry Sorenson
Will he Choose White again, or Wood/varnish?
My 2nd watch of this episode and I enjoyed it more. It reminded me of Ep 19 with Mr Cross which I've watched 5 or 6 times because it's so different. In the end I'll start again at No 1 and enjoy it all again.
Please tell me what are the dimensions for the length and width of your ship
@Frederick Stibbert Thank you
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tally_Ho_(yacht)
Great project and great videos as always. I would be interested in a video of two of you all after hours hanging out or having dinner and sitting around chatting and conversing joking and just enjoying the off time.
Hey Leo! I was watching that ship saw video where that fellow helped you get it running on 3 phase using single phase. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction as to finding out more information on how that works. Would it be possible for me to contact the fellow who got it going for you. Then maybe I could pick his brain a bit. Thanks for all the videos keep up the good work!
search online for "homemade three phase converter"! If that doesnt work send me an email at info@sampsonboat.co.uk
She's coming on nicely!!!
Covid is no joke
Anyone: (gently applying oil or “boat soup” to Tally Ho) Me: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU WILL NEVER REPLACE HER!
Cool saw mod great work! It takes a great man to know he mad a mistake and fall back and fix it right. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Pete for the deep dive it is great to try to understand the reasons behind the decisions The no compromises are unique, And I hope to have a chance to se the product in live The sooner the better _/) Love the shine of the bronze work, not sure any similar Bristol pilots can match those :-) BSR a big fan of your work
Leo, it would be very helpful if you would use a white board to illustrate some of details that you and others explain. For us visual learners, showing the cuts and tapers, etc. would make learning much better. The planking descriptions would be better understood with some simple diagrams.
Hi Leo, once again thanks for some great entertainment. Looking forward to the future and maybe see you racing against Jolie Brise, have you seen Tom's 1st Dec video? Will Tally Ho be as fast as Jolie Brise? Hope one day to see you in Whitby.
Jolie Brise is bigger (56 ft) than Tally Ho (47 ft). That makes a big difference in speed. Only time will tell what the performance of both yachts will be .
On long and reaped rips,, I have had excellent results with an old style steel rip blade. Chisel teeth, wide set and zero side blade bind. Annnndd the teeth are easy to give a quick sharp to with a flat file. I just chuck it up on the bench vise with a pair of scrap soft lumber in the jaws to grip the blade. You can make the teeth wicked sharp with just a few strokes. Beats a modern carbide blade hands down. The carbide may be able to cut 40 times longer,, but a proper steel rip blade will cut with 25% of the force required, and twice as fast.
moto beav
Nice work
Resumo da obra VOCE REFORMOU TANTOS BARCOS, que nao aprendeu a construir um do zero. O acertado seria ter tirado os macacos do barco sucata, e teria metade do trabalho em construir um novo.
If you parallel out your table saw blade, to about 2 thousandths or better - parallel to the right hand miter slot, you get a much better table saw. (loosen trunion bolts and touch up with a hammer)
A planking we will go, a planking we will go, high ho the Tally Ho, a planking Ho we go, hehe
lol, you and Pete should open a shop together.
Why are slot-head fasteners used when more 'secure' designs are available? I personally have ruined enough work slipping out of slots (millwork) to the point I frequently proclaim that slot screws should be illegal!
It'll be much easier to clean the slot, if the screw must be removed for future repairs.
19:00 I realize you are using silicon bronze because it's more historically authentic, but if that wasn't a consideration, would it be possible to use stainless steel wood screws? Or would those not work?
Sreel or iron fasteners are not at all the thing for a wooden boat. In a wet environment, iron ions corrode the wood cell proteins, weakening them (iron sickness) & allowing biological rot to set in more quickly. In addition, iron-oxygen corrosion (rust) is expansive & weakens the grip between fastener & wood. These probs aren't a big concern if you only expect your boat to last 20-30 years, but Leo is looking 75-100 years ahead.
curiosity question. I didn't see any caulking so far. and the abutting joints between planks and between garboard and keel seem flush, so no room to pack caulking in after the fact. I understand this is an obvious limitation in my knowledge of shipbuilding, but how do you make all these planks leak proof now? LOVE this series. It is THE BEST!
Leo hasn't been very explicit about it, but they are definitely shaping a 'caulking bevel' into the plank edges.
Can someone Buy this Guy a Nice Big Table saw so this Boat gets done before half of us are dead. Thanks. Somebody had to have won the lottery last week. Stop being cheap..
What a fabulous project. What is the principal timber you are using?
@Gareth Hynes Trenails - Black Locust Deck beams - White Oak Hull frames (ribs) - Southern Live Oak
Keel and stems =Purple heart, Ribs & Deck frame= White oak, Planks=Angelique and Wana, Stop Waters =Ceder, Trenails= i forgot
I forgot, Sampson, what do you think about scarf joints?
The menagerie of your shipwright boarding school is growing.
How I remember port side to starboard is with an old saying “Is there any port left in the bottle” so port side is the left side. Paul
or as my father put it - "To drink port is never right!"
please can we have more dog content thank you xx
I could tell as soon as you started making your tool that I had no idea what you were making
Leo explaining the foundry cost OAFAH!!!! And i thought old volkswagen parts were expensive!!
Miss the Escape....is there any wood left ,or is this a new boat replica?
To quote Leo: "She will have her original lead ballast keel, some planking, other re-used original timber, and various bits of hardware, as well as the continuity of looking like the same boat in any one given day. According to Lloyds, the Greeks (see ship of Theseus), the wooden-boat community, and myself, it will be the same boat! But, people are free to disagree and call it what they want."
lose the stupid music,,, Jaysus.
Like the technical explanations. She's looking good
I do caravel planking in Syracuse NY for hire!
Someone should definitely open a pub called “The Starboard Garboard”
GENIUS!
this is pure...no word to describe
Dick Clark: Hey Poncho, what do you think of Leo's new song Planing Planks? Poncho: It's definitely got a good beat - I can dance to it!
Looks like you’re making one of those. Lol
Sorry guys, it seems like I missed it previously - but what kind of wood is used for planking? It looks to be a beech wood to me, however at my knowledge, it's not that good for making boat planks.
Angelique and Wana (Red Louro), not beech
Sweet, just found your site.
I heard they are shutting down the USA on Dec 9th. So hope you can get your girl over this week.
Great work! I imagine what an effort it must be doing the planking on the original Tally Ho without that circular saws…
Your making a gismo!
You keep saying you are rebuilding the Tally Ho. In reality you are building a copy. You4 haven’t used anything from the original.
What is the planking stock?
Anglelique and Wana
If you have a need for some strong yet rust proof brackets you may look into making them out of steel and silicone bronze spray welding them. You would have the strength of steel and unless the brackets crack, are scraped or rubbed constantly will remain rustproof. The best way is to arch spray welding, the old powder in flame way will work but heats the steel a lot more. Looks great have been checking in from time to time to see how its coming.
Thanx for the explanation on how you cut the angles.
Excellent work, thanx for sharing.